Peter: And a little later in this podcast, in this conversation, I want to talk about this very particular point, because from a communicative point of view, I think you`re doing this brilliantly, that you`re writing a book that can really reach a very large group of people, regardless of education, regardless of prior knowledge, in a way that affects people. So I`d like to talk in a minute about how you did this trial. Before I do that, let`s talk about the book itself, and you start talking about the problem that requires us to have these four agreements, and that problem is related to what you call the domestication of people. Can only talk about a small amount of money? Peter: These lessons are so simple, easy and immediately recognizable, and yet part of this conversation is how hard it is to be up to the task, to be blameless with the word, not to make assumptions. I think what the book has done for me is to remind myself to say… and this conversation also makes for me, to remind me to say, “You know, the next assumption I`m going to make, I want to question it. The next time I say something, I want to stop for a moment and say, “Am I being blameless? Is that what I mean? Peter: Welcome to the Bregman Leadership podcast. I`m Peter Bregman, your host and CEO of Bregman Partners. This podcast is part of my mission to help them get massive traction on the most important things. We are honoured to have Don Miguel Ruiz with us today.
He wrote the number one bestseller, the Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom. Miguel just told me that the book was on the New York Times bestseller list for seven years, but it came back 20 years later and became number one on the New York Times bestseller list. It is a book that has for many years remained with men and continues to have wisdom, which offers us practical modes of action in the world, which offers us personal freedom, but also, I think, lessons to be learned from leadership, ways of acting in the world that help us to be more powerful leaders. Miguel, thank you for participating in the bregman leadership podcast. Miguel: But you listen, and when they say, “Look what I`ve done with my life, I`ve done this and that and that,” and you see that it worked for these people, you don`t have to believe them, but if you listen, you`re going to apply that in your own life, because you can become the best thing you can`t compare to another person. but with many other people, many other people, because there are seven billion people on this beautiful planet Earth who live right now, but there are so many others who live before and don`t live anymore, but they bring all these great ideas that if we listen or read what they say in their books, it will push us to do something new. Something, perhaps, much better than what they did.